Before It Was Mainstream
Before It Was Mainstream shares rare interviews from the Hieronimus & Co archive, hosted by Dr. Bob Hieronimus and Dr. Zohara Hieronimus. For over 40 years, they spoke with pioneers in spirituality, metaphysics, esoteric traditions, UFO research, holistic healing, alternative science, and the New Paradigm movement.
Each episode brings listeners timeless insights from visionaries who explored consciousness, hidden wisdom, and healing practices long before they entered the mainstream. Whether you’re curious about astrology, sacred traditions, or spiritual teachers, this podcast offers essential context for today’s seekers.
Discover the roots of modern spirituality through conversations that remain as relevant now as when they were first recorded. Full interviews available at 21stCenturyRadio.com
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Episodes
Wednesday Jul 23, 2025
Wednesday Jul 23, 2025
Pioneering parapsychology research, psychic, and author Ingo Swann talks to Dr. Bob about his iconic work Penetration: The Question of Extraterrestrial and Human Telepathy. Originally recorded in 1999, this show features more of Swann's backstory as a participant in government-funded research and development of remote viewing practices, as well as developing theories of extraterrestrial and human telepathic abilities.
In the 2-hour interview, Swann also covers a particularly emotional UFO experience. To hear this special interview in its entirety, head to 21stcenturyradio.com/archive.
Wednesday Jul 16, 2025
Wednesday Jul 16, 2025
Psychic, artist, and friend of the show, Ingo Swann, joins Dr. Zoh to discuss the parapsychology of mass apparitions of the Virigin Mary. Swann shares some of the stories detailed in his book The Great Apparitions of Mary and his analysis of social roles taken up by the media, witnesses, and skeptics surrounding each event.
Interview originally recorded in 1996.
For the full interview, visit 21stcenturyradio.com/archive
Wednesday Jul 09, 2025
Wednesday Jul 09, 2025
Dr. Edgar Mitchell began researching consciousness after his trip to the moon in 1971 as a part of NASA's Apollo 14 mission. In this clip from a 2018 appearance on 21st Century Radio®, Mitchell talks with Dr. Zoh Hieronimus about what happened in space and what he's learned since about the nature of consciousness, resonance, and quantum physics. Dr. Mitchell work in parapsychology carries on today through the Institute of Noetic Sciences, whose mission is "to reveal the interconnected nature of reality through scientific exploration and personal discovery."
For the full interview, visit 21stcenturyradio.com
Music by American Legion.
Wednesday Jul 02, 2025
Wednesday Jul 02, 2025
H&Co Producer Sika Wheeler sits down with Dr. Zoh to kick off the latest Hieronimus endeavor: Before It Was Mainstream, a podcast bringing Bob and Zoh's years of transformational interviews to new audiences. Dr. Zoh discusses the early days of 21st Century Radio® and the journey she and Bob weathered together to bring information about spiritual evolution to the public.
Discover the Hieronimus & Co online archive at 21stcenturyradio.com
Music is "Time Skipper" by American Legion.